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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject: Henry Hudson and the Catskill Gnomes Reply with quote

Henry Hudson and the Catskill Gnomes


On September 3rd of 1609, Henry Hudson sailed the Half Moon into the mouth of the great New York river that later bore his name. The explorer and his crew journeyed north for several days, trading with the native residents and searching for the fabled northwest passage to the Orient. By the time he reached the area that would become present-day Albany, Hudson knew that he had not found the passage for which he sought. Reluctantly, he turned the Half Moon and sailed back down the river.

That night, Henry Hudson and his crew anchored the Half Moon in the shadow of the Catskill Mountains. Around midnight, Hudson heard the sound of music floating across the mountains and down to the river. Taking a few members of his crew, he went ashore and followed the sound up and up into the Catskills. The sound of the music grew louder as Hudson and his men marched up to the edge of a precipice. To their astonishment, a group of pygmies with long, bushy beards and eyes like pigs were dancing and singing and capering about in the firelight.

Hudson realized that these creatures were the metal-working gnomes of whom the natives had spoken. One of the bushy-bearded chaps spotted the explorer and his men and welcomed them with a cheer. The short men surrounded the crew and drew them into the firelight and the dance. Hudson and his men were delighted with these strange, small creatures, and with the hard liquor that the gnomes had brewed. Long into the night, the men drank and played nine-pins with the gnomes while Henry Hudson sipped at a single glass of spirits and spoke with the chief of the gnomes about many deep and mysterious things.

Realizing at last how late it was, Hudson looked around for his men. At first, he couldn't locate them. All he saw were large groups of gnomes, laughing and joking as they sprawled around the fire. Then, to his astonishment, he recognized several of the gnomes as his crewmen! They had undergone a transformation. Their heads had swollen to twice their normal size, their eyes were small and pig-like, and their bodies had shortened until they were only a little taller than the gnomes themselves.

Hudson was alarmed, and asked the chief of the gnomes for an explanation. It was, the chief explained to Hudson, the effect of the magical hard liquor the gnomes brewed. It would wear off when the liquor did. Hudson wasn't sure that he believed the little man. Afraid of what else might happen to him and his crewman if they continued to linger in such company, Hudson hurriedly took his leave of the gnomes and hustled his severely drunken crewmen back to the Half Moon. The entire crew slept late into the morning, as if they were under the influence of a sleeping draught. When they awakened, the crewmen who had accompanied Hudson up into the Catskill Mountains, aside from ferocious headaches, were back to normal

Hudson continued on his way down the great river, and by October 4th, the Half Moon had reached the mouth and Hudson and his crew sailed for home. In 1610, Hudson set off on another journey, searching for a northwestern passage to the Orient. Trapped in the ice through a long winter, Hudson's crew eventually mutinied and set Henry Hudson and eight of his crewmen adrift in the Hudson Bay. They were never seen again.

In September 1629, twenty years to the day that Hudson and his crew met the Catskill gnomes, a bright fire appeared on the precipice above the hollow, and dance music could be heard floating through the mountains. The Catskill gnomes spent the evening dancing, and carousing and drinking their magic liquor. At midnight, they were joined by the spirits of Henry Hudson and crew. Merry was their meeting, and the gnomes and the spirits played nine-pins all night long. Each time they rolled the ball, a peal of thunder would shake the mountains, and the fire would flare up in bolts like lightening. The party lasted until daybreak, at which hour the spirits departed from the hills, with promises to return.

Every twenty years, the spirits of Henry Hudson and his crew returned to the Catskill Mountains to play nine-pins with the gnomes, and to look out over the country they had first explored together on the Half Moon. Now and then, one of the Dutch settlers living in the region came across the spirits as they played nine-pins. They claimed that any man foolish enough to drink of the spirits' magic liquor would sleep from the moment the spirits departed the mountain to the day they returned, twenty years later. Most folks discounted the story, although several members of Rip Van Winkle's family swore it was true. True or false, wise folks who walk among the Catskills in September do not accept a drink of liquor when it is offered to them. Just in case.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this story, always was found of ghost ships and water related horror...

Ninepins is in fact a gme that has an objective of knocking over. Very subtle, very nice...
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought that ninepins was bowling? But it is interesting that the Natives from this area had stories of "little people" that were lighter skinded than them ......I guess the Irish are not the only peoples that have tales of little people......I wonder if other lands have stories of the small ones?
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ninepins is a bowling game, but take a look at it's underlying theme. It's a game that requires one ball to knock over several pins. Knocking over also takes the meaning of pulling a fast one...

Whenever in Folklore games are mentioned, especially childrens games, look to see what the game is all about. This will let you decipher a story within the story. All Folklore has a story within a the main story...

In this case the little people are loveable characters fun and friendly, yet they're known to mock humans and use them to entertain themselves...

Folklore is a very interesting subject to study Osky...
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ninepins is a bowling game, but take a look at it's underlying theme. It's a game that requires one ball to knock over several pins. Knocking over also takes the meaning of pulling a fast one...

Whenever in Folklore games are mentioned, especially children's games, look to see what the game is all about. This will let you decipher a story within the story. All Folklore has a story within a the main story...

In this case the little people are lovable characters fun and friendly, yet they're known to mock humans and use them to entertain themselves...

so one could equate it with a fixed carnaval game Question I would think that the skill of knocking over the nine pins would be how the pins are set will they fall on to each other or will they fall away from each other Question
The 'little other people' that are told in this story I don't see as love able as in the NA accounts.....where when one would show up at your hogan you had better give them what they ask or they will point at you ~go invisible then take what they came for and other stuff too.
And yes they are mocking the humans...
I never was fond of fairies as a child I was rather afraid of them I had been told folk tales of the darker side .....of these and 'little people' and the fairies...of banshees coming on the storms to steal you away (even though they lemant for the lose of a life of one of the old Irish families)
Folk tales have a whif of realism within them just as nursery rhymes
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Folk tales have a lesson in them, most were used to scare children into obedience. Such as this one:


Once upon a time there was a child who was willful and did not do what his mother wanted. For this reason God was displeased with him and caused him to become ill, and no doctor could help him, and in a short time he lay on his deathbed.
He was lowered into a grave and covered with earth, but his little arm suddenly came forth and reached up, and it didn't help when they put it back in and put fresh earth over it, for the little arm always came out again. So the mother herself had to go to the grave and beat the little arm with a switch, and as soon as she had done that, it withdrew, and the child finally came to rest beneath the earth.


It's basic idea is that a disobedient child will not even rest in his grave. The little people aren't loveable in human sense, but there is a slight attraction to the unknown or to Devilsh deeds...

Check this directory out if you wish Osky:

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Folk tales have a lesson in them, most were used to scare children into obedience. Such as this one:

Oh yes which one was this one from where on the site Question
folk tales were to teach /scare....make you laugh,make you think.....make you greatfull for what you have.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was a Brothers Grimm story, I think it's called Willful Child or Restless Boy. These were retold under so many different names...

Most of the Grimm collection can be found here:

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But that particular story I have taken form here:

Willful Child
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great story, osky!
I see you have put a number in this forum - somehow I missed them til now - sorry about that - I have always been interested in folk tales and have a collection of books from different countries. But I'd never heard of these from the Catskills before - Excellent!


Great Grimm site, Guard - "Willful Child" is pretty spooky!
Not a child's tale in my opinion!
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No fairy tale and most bedtime stories are not political correct for today's children Rolling Eyes But if you think about the times they were written they still are grim....but life was short lived and riddled with death ..and despair...and children where not thought of really as children but little adults....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oscarskids wrote:
No fairy tale and most bedtime stories are not political correct for today's children Rolling Eyes But if you think about the times they were written they still are grim....but life was short lived and riddled with death ..and despair...and children where not thought of really as children but little adults....


This is true - children were thought of differently - often as workers for the farm or family business.
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